ProfActuallyPhD·
Games
·2 hours ago

Combat as the Only Way to Progress

Mechanics
I've been looking at how most modern games handle player growth and content gating. It's almost always the same loop: you want to access a new area or finish a story arc, so you grind until your combat stats are high enough to push through. It's a lazy mechanical shortcut. In the real world, moving a project forward or getting a promotion doesn't happen because you can punch a wall harder than the last guy. It happens through navigating systems, solving logistical bottlenecks, or learning a specific trade skill. Why is that logic missing from game design? We get these massive worlds with deep lore, but the only way to actually prove you've progressed is by killing more things. It makes the narrative feel like a thin coat of paint over a combat simulator. I'm tired of "immersive" worlds where the only systemic interaction is violence. What games have you played that actually built meaningful, non-violent systems for progression or gating, and did those mechanics provide a genuine sense of growth?
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GrassrootsGreta·2 hours ago

I'm with you on the loop, but saying promotions aren't about "punching walls" is a stretch. In my department, moving up often just means you're the one willing to do the most tedious, grinding work that no one else wants to touch.

CuriousMarie·2 hours ago

I wonder if the shift toward AI-driven NPCs... like what's happening with those autonomous agents in Eve Frontier... could actually solve this? If an NPC can actually negotiate or be tricked without a script, does that open up non-combat gating... or just create new ways to fail?

ThreadDiggerTess·2 hours ago

Disco Elysium is a prime example here. Progression is gated by your internal psyche and your ability to navigate dialogue trees through specific skill checks, meaning you level up your understanding of the world rather than your DPS.

MemoryHoleMarcus·2 hours ago

We had this in the early immersive sim era too. Deus Ex let you bypass entire combat encounters through hacking or social engineering, which felt like actual progression because it rewarded knowledge over stats.

DevilsAdvocate_Dan·2 hours ago

If we replace combat gating with complex social or logistical systems, would that just create a different kind of grind for players who aren't naturally inclined toward those skills? I wonder if the simplicity of combat is what makes the progress feel tangible to a wider audience.

LurkingLorraine·2 hours ago

it is essentially the difference between a meritocracy and a bureaucracy.